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    So... long story short... my dad bought me a 65 mustang for fathers day. I'm 35 so I was totally floored by this and was caught off guard.

    Having owned a 68 mustang and 67 Mercury cougar previously. I'm aiming for something different. I don't plan to go to car shows with this build.. this will not be a concours correct car. However it is 95% original.

    The idea is to mod but in a way its reversible if that day was to come for a resale or whatever the reason for original look.

    Essentially bolt on items..

    Disc brakes.. mainly for the front. But will aim for the back as well. Gotta be safe now days

    New bushings for the front.. for better steering and handling

    Maybe a TCP coil over kit for the original shock towers or Koni shocks

    possible new rack n pinion ... if bushings do not fully work the twerks out.

    Upgrade in interior.. the Original is still pretty good but.. new is always good. Especially late model bucket seats.

    The motor end of things is left open ended..

    I'm currently running a 200 cid I6.. after some research and some inspiration from a blog.. Thinking on keeping this in the stang or another I6 motor.
    I was impressed on some setups with this motor boosted and non boosted.. using Australian heads from a 80's falcon. There is currently a company making a duplicate of this head now.. kinda expensive but certainly making it unique. I would be ditching the iron log head thats currently in there now.. and placing a aluminum head called Oz250 cross flow, which will allow for better breathing for the motor. The typical pistons and crank upgrades apply. Upgrade the single barrel carb to either 2 2 bbl's or a single 4bbl intake or single 2bbl setup.

    I'm also not ruling out the 300 I6 either.. this would allow for even more options and keep the geometry of everything as it is now.

    Thoughts? Ideas? Bashing haha
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    First, nice car it sounds like and good luck with what you decide to do. However I have to say that once you said you would be keeping the six, I lost most of my interest. Will certainly make a nice driver if you go that route, though. Let's see some pictures.
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    Here is idea on engine..

    http://www.classicinlines.com/galler...pages/MM4.html

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    Here is a better shot of a clean setup.

    http://www.classicinlines.com/gallery/fordinlines/Aluminum/pages/WK5.html

    torque wise these I6's are pretty narly on the numbers for what they are.
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    if you want to be different keep the I6.


    If you want power ditch the I6.
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    Be different and have power. Upgrade the I6 to a 300 and turbo it. I seen a pretty fast Maverick with that combo. It's cheap and it works.

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    I would love to see a Turbo 300 6. The motor is reliable and I believe pretty damn strong. I don't see why you couldn't at least make 300 rwhp, 350+ tq easily. I remember when my friend had one in his F150 we found 4 bbl manifold conversions, long tube headers, and a few other things available. Piping should be insanely simple with the amount of room you will have. Do it. Come on .... Dooo it!


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    I'm thinking the maverick was running 10s on a pretty well stock 300.

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    Exactly... how many vintage mustangs have we all seen at cars shows running a 289 or 302? A I6 with some modern appointments would be a departure from the normal recipe of power.

    It will be fun to say the least!
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    Amen prophesy.

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    Google the Maverick or look it up on youtube. I read about it in a magazine and then watched the videos. I'm pretty sure the engine was bone stock with the exception of some aftermarket valve springs. The car was a total sleeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShafferDesignLLC View Post
    First, nice car it sounds like and good luck with what you decide to do. However I have to say that once you said you would be keeping the six, I lost most of my interest. Will certainly make a nice driver if you go that route, though. Let's see some pictures.
    Same here.
    I assume it's a couple, being it's a 6cyl? They made 6cyl fastbacks, but they're few and far between .
    That being said, a 6cyl coupe isn't desirable on the collector end, so.mod the crap.out if it. You're never going to put it back to stock and make a fortune.

    The first thing I'd do is toss the 6cyl in the garbage.
    There's a reason why it would be "different". No one has done it cause it sucks lol.

    Have you thought about changing it over to IRS? A lot of guys use the rear susp from a Jag.
    Up front go with tubular control arms etc.
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    Youtube turbo 4.9 Maverick...runs 11.05 with the front tires in the air. I normally don't like 6 poppers myself but this combo works and works well. I'll post a link if you can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siwel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ShafferDesignLLC View Post
    First, nice car it sounds like and good luck with what you decide to do. However I have to say that once you said you would be keeping the six, I lost most of my interest. Will certainly make a nice driver if you go that route, though. Let's see some pictures.
    Same here.
    I assume it's a couple, being it's a 6cyl? They made 6cyl fastbacks, but they're few and far between .
    That being said, a 6cyl coupe isn't desirable on the collector end, so.mod the crap.out if it. You're never going to put it back to stock and make a fortune.

    The first thing I'd do is toss the 6cyl in the garbage.
    There's a reason why it would be "different". No one has done it cause it sucks lol.

    Have you thought about changing it over to IRS? A lot of guys use the rear susp from a Jag.
    Up front go with tubular control arms etc.

    I dont expect to impress everyone here on keeping the 6cyl.. btw it is a coupe. For now I wanna toy with the 6cyl.. I beleive there is hidden potenital in there. Hell I havent ruled out dropping in a 2JZ in there for shits and giggles.

    I dont think I will do the IRS.. not right now anyways. The front tubular control arms are certainly a direction I'm looking at.

    Right now as it is... take care of some rust issues is priority. I have the typical issues.. it seems who ever done body work prior to me.. did a good job 20 years ago. Now 20 years later... not so much. So i gotta cut and weld in some new panels in the typical areas... trunk area. and possibly inner rocker and drivers floor pan.
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    Here is a all ford Australian motor.. its a 6 banger.
    SOHC 4L inline six... I know its a different beast from the 200 I6 currently in there now.. however.. I'm looking at modding the block and swapping heads from a australian ford.

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    anything can be done...only costs money.

    Buddy just did a n/a 240 6cyl buildup and it made good power for old school iron...dyno'd a little better than 1hp/ci.

    Just think if he would've had 302ci with the same ratio...extra 60hp.


    And they both cost the same to build.


    What parts have you bought yet? Did you get that aussie head? How is progress? A cool build for sure.
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    No 2jz...use American iron

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    Actually I think I'm gonna start with redoing the engine bay... would a build thread be suitable here? Or maybe start a Facebook account instead for easier posts and such.
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    I thought this was a build thread
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    lots of discussion and no pics, yea it's a build thread
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    I'll make some pics by friday. Don't wanna be all talk and no show lol. I need a new picture host site and recommendations?
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    I use photobucket
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    Well here is a few pics from the day I drove it to my dads farm.





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    Please don't put a six in that. LOL...that car is beautiful.

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    Looks great!
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    Thanks... It does have a few cover ups in the body work. I plan to fix those issues and make right. As for the 6 it's in there now. I don't have extradriodinary deep pockets.. So I have to take this project in phases. First is to work in the front area and replace some inner fender walls.. And do some detail work. The biggest project may come next year.... Gotta do trunk work.. And frame rail repair.. Possibly qtr panel repair.
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